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Google's QUIC
- Subject: Google's QUIC
- From: alvarezp at alvarezp.ods.org (Octavio Alvarez)
- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:12:24 -0700
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:20:21 -0700, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Runs in top of UDP"... "Is not UDP"...
>
> If it has protocol set to 17 it is UDP.
So QUIC is an algorithm instead of a protocol?
>> SCTP is not NAT friendly (to the best of my knowledge), SHIM6 is
>> IPv6-specific and can help you "recover" an already successful
>> connection.
>
>> LISP... I can't still grasp LISP, although it doesn't have anything to
>> do with multihoming. :-)
>
> Lisp is actually very much about multihoming... In fact that was one of
> the key reasons it got started. It actually could make >multihoming and
> mobility very much simpler at the applications if it were used.
Yeah, but LISP is as [in]accessible to end-users as BGP is and it will
be like that forever. It requires ISPs to opt-in to provide this. LISP
is not a universal option.
LISP matters to the Internet core, it doesn't matter to the whole Internet.
It is just not universal.
>> ILNP is new for me. Looks interesting, thanks.
>
> Mind that ilnp is v6only also requires stack changes...
I just read about ILNP. ILNP is nice if you want to multihome nodes, but
virtualization (or spanning, for that matter, similar to anycasting) over
multiple data-centers will reach the limitations of ILNP. It is a step
ahead, but it is not an integral approach.
I wish my Debian mirror would just be the "mirror.debian.net" *service*
(not host), and the network could choose the best for me.
--
Octavio.
- References:
- Google's QUIC
- From: mike at mtcc.com (Michael Thomas)
- Google's QUIC
- From: alvarezp at alvarezp.ods.org (Octavio Alvarez)
- Google's QUIC
- From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)
- Google's QUIC
- From: alvarezp at alvarezp.ods.org (Octavio Alvarez)
- Google's QUIC
- From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)
- Google's QUIC
- From: alvarezp at alvarezp.ods.org (Octavio Alvarez)
- Google's QUIC
- From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)