wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking]

[owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong)]

On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:16 AM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon at cox.net> wrote:

> On 10/9/2014 02:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 2:11 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/14 1:29 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/8/2014 08:47, William Herrin wrote:
>>>>>> BART would not have had an FCC license. They'd have had contracts with
>>>>>> the various phone companies to co-locate equipment and provide wired
>>>>>> backhaul out of the tunnels. The only thing they'd be guilty of is
>>>>>> breach of contract, and that only if the cell phone companies decided
>>>>>> their behavior was inconsistent with the SLA..
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK that makes more sense than the private answer I got from Roy.  I
>>>>> wondered why the FCC didn't take action if there was a license violation.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/technology/fcc-reviews-need-for-rules-to-interrupt-wireless-service.html?_r=0
>>> 
>>>> From the article: "Among the issues on which the F.C.C. is seeking
>>> comment is whether it even has authority over the issue."
>>> 
>>> Also: "The BART system owns the wireless transmitters and receivers
>>> that allow for cellphone reception within its network.â??
>> 
>> Iâ??m not sure that statement is accurate. However, there is no prohibition against owning a Microcell or other cellular station which is operated by a third party under said third partyâ??s license.
>> 
>>> I'm not entirely clear how that works.
>> 
>> If that were truly the case (and I donâ??t think it is, given BART statements that â??...the cellular providers are basically tenants and are as such subject toâ?¦â??), Iâ??m pretty sure it would be operated by the cellular carrier under their license as a non-owner of the equipment.
> 
> What where the laws and practices in the Olde Days of over-the-air TV when somebody in a small town installed a translator to repeat Big-Cities-TV-Station into a small town?

The translator had to be operated by a holder of an FCC license for that translator.

Operator and Owner are not necessarily linked in any way shape or form, though they usually were one and the same.

Owen