gmail spam help

[dtaylor at vocalabs.com (Daniel Taylor)]

Of course not, and I didn't mean to imply that they were.

I was surprised to see it still present *anywhere* (this was in a major 
Linux distribution, and may still be), and that hidden presence may be 
polluting data streams used by even the most responsible vendors unless 
they are running entirely self-contained.

On 02/12/2015 07:04 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
> Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist block lists.
>
> On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com 
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>> wrote:
>
>     Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl
>
>     We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local
>     installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still
>     haven't figured it out so there's a lot of false positives being
>     generated all over the place to throw off even filters that don't
>     use it directly.
>
>     On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
>
>         Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server
>         has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is
>         proper. This is a recent issue.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms at zcorum.com
>         <mailto:khelms at zcorum.com>]
>         Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
>         To: Alex Rubenstein
>         Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
>         Subject: Re: gmail spam help
>
>         I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the
>         lack of spam from this specific server.  A great percentage of
>         the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from
>         very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to have little
>         or no over sight in place.
>
>         Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by users,
>         even when they opted in for the email.  If enough people
>         flagged email from this server as spam it will cause Google to
>         consider other email from the same small server as likely to
>         be spam as well.  Small systems, especially new ones, tend to
>         unintentionally look like spam sources by not having proper
>         reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the
>         domain, etc.
>
>
>         Scott Helms
>         Vice President of Technology
>         ZCorum
>         (678) 507-5000
>         --------------------------------
>         http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
>         --------------------------------
>
>         On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein
>         <alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>> wrote:
>         I should have been clearer.
>
>         I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when
>         they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail
>         account or google apps) that they recipient is reporting that
>         the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I tested this
>         myself, sending an email from alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>> to rubenstein45 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>>>
>
>         [cid:image001.png at 01D046AD.3B2FA890]
>
>         This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net
>         <http://corp.nac.net><http://corp.nac.net> is a small exchange
>         implementation with only about 50 users behind it, and there
>         is no question that there is no spamming going on from here.
>
>         So, itâ??s not a question of adding a filter or not using gmail;
>         it is not me who is using gmail in this problem.
>
>
>
>         From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
>         <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com><mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
>         <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>>]
>         Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
>         To: Alex Rubenstein
>         Cc: NANOG list
>         Subject: Re: gmail spam help
>
>
>         Create a filter.
>
>         Josh Luthman
>         Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
>         Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
>         1100 Wayne St
>         Suite 1337
>         Troy, OH 45373
>         On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein" <alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
>         <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>>> wrote:
>         Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail
>         email issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail
>         erroneously?
>
>         Thanks.
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Daniel Taylor          VP Operations            Vocal
>     Laboratories, Inc.
>     dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>
>     http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
>