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Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
The statistics certainly *should* be used when provisioning aggregate
resources.
But even if 1% of users would reasonably be using a fully symmetric link
to its potential, that's a good reason to at least have such circuits
available in the standard consumer mix, which they aren't today.
On 02/27/2015 01:30 PM, Scott Helms wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Well, I wouldn't call using the mean a "myth", after all understanding
> most customer behavior is what we all have to build our business cases
> around. If we throw out what customers use today and simply take a
> build it and they will come approach then I suspect there would fewer
> of us in this business.
>
> Even when we look at anomalous users we don't see symmetrical usage,
> ie top 10% of uploaders. We also see less contended seconds on their
> upstream than we do on the downstream. These observations are based
> on ~500k residential and business subscribers across North America
> using FTTH (mostly GPON), DOCSIS cable modems, and various flavors of DSL.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
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> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Taylor <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>> wrote:
>
> But by this you are buying into the myth of the mean.
>
> It isn't that most, or even many, people would take advantage of
> equal upstream bandwidth, but that the few who would need to take
> extra measures unrelated to the generation of that content to be
> able to do so.
>
> Given symmetrical provisioning, no extra measures need to be taken
> when that 10 year old down the street turns out to be a master
> musician.
>
> On 02/27/2015 11:59 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>
> This is true in our measurements today, even when subscribers
> are given
> symmetrical connections. It might change at some point in the
> future,
> especially when widespread IPv6 lets us get rid of NAT as a de
> facto
> deployment reality.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000 <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000>
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> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Naslund, Steve
> <SNaslund at medline.com <mailto:SNaslund at medline.com>>
> wrote:
>
> How about this? Show me 10 users in the average
> neighborhood creating
> content at 5 mbps....Period. Only realistic app I see is
> home surveillance
> but I don't think you want everyone accessing that
> anyway. The truth is
> that the average user does not create content that anyone
> needs to see.
> This has not changed throughout the ages, the ratio of
> authors to readers,
> artists to art lovers, musicians to music lovers, YouTube
> cat video creator
> to cat video lovers, has never been a many to many
> relationship.
>
> On 2015-02-27 12:13, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
> <mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> Consider a group of 10 users, who all create new
> content. If each one
> creates at a constant rate of 5 mbits, they need 5
> up. But to
> download all the new content from the other 9, they
> need close to 50
>
> down.
>
> And when you expand to several billion people creating
> new content,
> you need a *huge* pipe down.
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
>
>
>
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> Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal
> Laboratories, Inc.
> dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>
> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 <tel:%28612%29235-5711>
>
>
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